Tuesday, April 10, 2007

Interesting

So, I saw the Nelly Furtado concert last week, which was ok by all accounts. Nothing fantastic, and it took a while to build up some steam to the level of which you would expect from her last cd.

Anyway...I have also been listening to Timbaland's disc, which came out last week. Here is something interesting that I discovered, there is some talk floaring around the internet that Timbaland ripped off an unknown Finnish producer and used this guy's music as the basis for Nelly Furtado's "Do It To Me" (n.b. He also used the same music for a ring tone called Block Party which he released in 2005, so he is double dipping). Anyway, there is a video on Youtube which notes the similarities between the original and the accused track on the Nelly cd.



The composer of the original music explains his side of the story on his own website: http://www.fairlight.fi/tempest/ . Better yet if you are familiar with the Nelly version, listen to the original composer's track "Acidjazzed Evening"on his myspace page: http://www.myspace.com/tempestchipmusic

So....it is an interesting situation. However, one must admit that it is very difficult to determine the source of samples floating around the internet. I mean, in theory, I could come up with a melody line or piece of music, post it somewhere, and then it could make its way to any kind of sample website or file repository and it would be extremely difficult for someone to give me credit for it even if they wanted to.

4 comments:

Zee German said...

Interesting. I picked up Shock Value, Timba's new CD. Personally, I think it is a great CD with a mix of hip-hop, techno and even some rock. Not in his defence, but what rap artisit or star is original these days? Then again, lifting tracks without permission doesn't count. But Timba just joined the ranks of Jay-Z (who is also known for lifting tracks from unknown artists).

Dopolis said...

A found a recording of a radio interview with Timbalans'd response to the controversy. He has some valid points, however..he does come off as a wee bit arrogant sometimes. But why not? He's Timba!

Seriously though, from a musician's point of view...even I have samples on my computer that I have found on various websites and file downloads who's author I cannot determine. I mean a sample could be legitimate;y available for purchase/license on a website A, but once one person purchases it, it becomes watered down if they then offer the same file on a p2p network with none of the identifying information intact.

However, bottom line...throw the guy a bone..he obviously wrote the song, you're making a fistful of cash off it (to add to your already enormous pile of cash)...toss a brother a couple of bills!

Dopolis said...

Here's the link by the way:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ATkHbfbQAc4

Anonymous said...

dopolis: Sure who hasn't used samples of unknown orign, but I'm sure those samples of yours weren't 15 second long and forms in an unmodified form the basic structure and melody of your entire songs.

Timbaland really can't play the sample-card, everything except the simplistic drumbeat and the lyrics is derived from the ripped sample in "Do It", the larger part of the creative work is not done by him. And from an artistic point the usage of the same sample in the ringtone he made the year earlier is way worse, that time the only thing Timbo did was to add some drums, simply plagiarizm of the worst kind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV2fTEeP6GM